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case. it was about the challenge. it was about the hunt. that's all that mattered. that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm natalie morales. thank you for watching. ♪ hey. >> first up on msnbc, tensions flaring overnight, as trump supporters and counterprotesters clash over election results in washington, d.c. it started with thousands rallying for the president, claiming e lux fraud. by nightfall, 20 people had been arrested throughout the day. >> i was walking over there. you can't walk that way. why? there's a crime scene. there's blood on the ground. i walk by the bloambulance.
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there's a person with his shirt off. >> the president blaming antifa. and the united states is reporting covid hospitalizations. more than 68,000 people hospitalized across this country. it comes after daily new cases hit a fresh, new record every day for the past ten days. right now, there's 11 million cases in the u.s. and more than 246,000 people have died from this virus so far this year. if you take a live look right now of the u.s. capitol, where things have calmed down a little bit in the general d.c. area. what a mess. it escalated fairly quickly there throughout the day. that rally starting at noon local time yesterday. and then, quickly turned out of hand, as we say good morning, on this sunday, this november 15th. i'm kendis gibson. >> i'm lindsey reiser. we're happy you're with us. we're live from msnbc headquarters in new york. >> we have a team of correspondents and analysts,
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following the latest for us right now. >> we begin with josh in washington, d.c. we saw the video. we heard the shouting. how did the rally turn violent? >> good morning. we could see as the tension was building between the thousands of trump supporters and election deniers who gathered at the various events throughout washington, as well as pro-biden protesters who were there to make known their view that the election was legitimate. and while it was mostly peaceful during the day, with police able to stand between those two opposing sides, we saw as day turned tonig night fall, is it started to get out of hand, andless ability for law enforcement to keep the two groups separate. according to authorities and according to our affiliate, nbc washington, there was 20 arrests. there was one person who was stabbed and transported to the hospital with some critical
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wounds. and part of what we saw in the events yesterday, was the fact that there are a lot of the trump supporters who wanted to exercise their second amendment rights, despite the fact there are strict gun laws in place here at the district of colombia. local authorities saying there were also seven guns that were recovered. >> josh, thank you for the update. let's talk about the transition right now. president-elect joe biden is pushing forward with his transition, despite a lack of cooperation from the trump administration. now, some republicans are vowing to step up their efforts to try to help biden get access to the things he needs. how is biden trying to manage right now without the cooperation from the white house? >> reporter: the transition is just pushing forward. you said it. but the thing is, there's a lot of headwinds right now because the "is" aren't dotted and "ts"
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aren't crossed. the general services administration has not sent that letter of ascertainment that would trigger a process that would allow money and information to start flowing to the biden transition. to that end, they're pushing ahead and showing their priorities. we know that covid is the top issue for every american. you see the charts of spiking cases. it's scary to look at, and biden spoke to that, as well as the exhaustion, americans are feeling going into another month of the pandemic. it's something he vowed to tackle. and it's something that personnel is policy. as we saw him start off this week, we saw him roll out a 13-person covid task force. obviously putting that issue front and center. but also consider the person who he named his white house chief of staff. ron klain is someone he was the ebola czar under barack obama. pretty good with dealing with health crises in real-time. he's going to be one of the
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people at the helm of coordinating this pandemic response, once the biden administration takes power here. and consider the fact that we're learning overnight, that michelle flo michelle flornoy, if she were appointed it would reflect biden's promise that the cabinet would look like america. she would be the first woman in that post. very significant. there's covid significance to it, as well. we know the military is going to play a logistical role in coordinating the rollout of a vaccine. while the transition is trying to figure out what that might look like, they're trying to do that on their own, parallel to the efforts of the federal government right now, because they're not currently able to coordinate with places like health and human services and d.o.d. right now, who would coordinate what a plan might look like in a vaccine comes in early next year when biden would be in power. >> yeah. a lot of people were mentioning
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michelle flornoy's name, as possibly being part of hillary clinton's cabinet way back when. ali vitale, thank you. let's bring in jennifer horn, former chair of the new hampshire gop. and zeke stokes, democratic strategist and founder of zs strategies and chief officer of gladd. good morning, both of you. we're happy you're here. i want to watch the video again from d.c., of some of the clashes that we saw during the protesting yesterday. we see tensions flaring here between americans. we knew that businesses were boarding up. they were expecting potential clashes in a post-election world. when you see images like this, does it surprise you or does it concern you, considering so many are calling for unity and for the country to move forward? >> actually, it's very
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concerning. thanks for having me this morning. this is concerning. anybody who sees this should be worried about what this could lead to. and the most concerning part of this, is this is exactly what the sitting of the president of united states wants to see in our streets. he's been sowing chaos and division and calling for violence sis long before election day, frankly. and what's most disturbing -- more disturbing beyond that, is there are so many leaders in the republican party who could be holding this president in check, who could be calling for him to acknowledge the election, and adding the voices calling for unity and peace and calm, as we go through the transition. and they have chosen not to do that. they are continuing to put their grip on power, their ambition for power ahead of what is best for the people of the united states of america. and that's something i think that concerns all americans. >> zeke, where is the republican
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party when it comes to stuff like this? you had the president there last night, tweeting through the evening, as clashes broke out, he made no mention of the proud boys and other extremist groups that were there. what's the role of the party and the president, for that matter, in all of this? >> i think at this point, the republican party has abdicated its responsibility here. it's been more than a week where the president was declared. and the republican party is largely silent. and leaders like ted cruz, lindsey graham, others going on other networks and really inflaming this chaos and calling for this kind of reaction. i think by and large, the american people have moved on from this race. we saw polls last week that showed only 3% of americans believe that donald trump actually won this race. they're ready to move on and deal with the very big problems in front of us. deal with covid. deal with 20 million people unemployed. but this president is not giving up power quickly or easily.
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and it really is putting the biden transition and all americans at risk on so many levels. >> jennifer, we know that when violence is breaking out in kenosha, wisconsin, trump appeared to be sympathetic toward kyle rittenhouse. he is accused of shooting protesters there in wisconsin. we see no mention of the proud boys, calling out the proud boys on the president's twitter. do you feel the extremist groups feel more emboldened than ever? >> my fear is that, the republican party is actively engaged in involving these extremists and these extremist groups. and that doesn't just present, you know -- first of all it presents a significant danger to our country in the people on the streets that are trying to engage in peaceful protests. the fact that the president is trying to embrace these right-wing extremists, white nationalists, others in that radical extreme wing of the
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republican party on the right, you know, that's dangerous. that puts our country and average citizens in danger. i would also warn all of the republican leaders, you know, when you look at the election results across the swing states, on average across the swing states, about 6.5% of republicans crossed over to vote for joe biden. while they may have come back to the republican party down ballot, they sent a clear message about what kind of leadership they expect from the white house and what kind of leadership they expect from washington. the republicans who are continuing to hitch their cart to this extreme, radical segment in the farthest right wing of the party, they're making a mistake for themselves politically, as well as putting the country in danger. >> all of that side, zeke, the president did get some 72 million-plus votes. compared to joe biden, 77
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million. joe biden has been talking about unity. how is he going to do that? how is he going to unify the country? >> it is going to be tough. but i think if anybody is up to the job of unifying the country, it is president-elect biden and vice president-elect harris. the country is ready to move forward. the new president, president-elect biden is going to put forward some very bold solutions and quick movement in the early days to get americans working again, to fight the virus, to use common sense to fight the virus and stop the madness listening to scientists and the medical professionals. i think he's going to do it, in part, by taking action and being the kind of president that people went to the polls to vote for in this past election. but the fact of the matter is, that donald trump showed us who he was the first day he came down the escalator at trump tower. he has showed us who he is every
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day since then. one of the realities we have to deal with as a country, is this trump presidency revealed a lot about who we are as a country and a lot of the work we have to do, particularly around racial justice when it comes to moving this country forward. i'm so pleased that the new president and the new vice president have made that a centerpiece of their work moving forward and not just talking about it on the campaign trail but really putting a punctuation mark on that point last saturday night in his speech, in wilmington, delaware. i have a lot of hope for the future. i think americans have a lot of hope for the future. we're ready to put this terrible chapter behind us. >> that's all we can hopeful at this point. 78 million people for joe biden and kamla harris. 73 million for president trump. zeke stokes and jennifer horn, thank you. coronavirus cases continue to surge, including in massachusetts, where they're reopening a field hospital in one of the largest cities. we're going to speak with seth
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molten about the spikes there and the stalemate over covid relief on capitol hill. plus, after president trump fires mark esper, now, there are concerns the cia director could be next. what impact could that have on our national security? wow. that will save me lots of money. this game's boring. only pay for what you need. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.
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a minnesota health official warns the state is at a, quote, desperate and dangerous place with covid-19. minnesota reported a record number of cases, adding 8,700 cases. cori coffin is at the st. paul international airport. cori, glad you're inside. it's a snow globe out there. what's happening right now? >> reporter: we are, too. the cases continue to explode. the testing rate, the positivity rate in some parts of this state, up to 15% and growing. and know, when it comes to the case load, we had 19,000 active cases just two weeks ago. that number is 46,000.
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just ballooning to bring the overall case count in the state to more than 215,000. and this has become the deadliest week for the state, as well. almost 3,000 deaths. what we're seeing is epidemiologists say there is a rise all over the state. but the biggest spikes are happening in rural parts of the state. my colleague, gabe gutierrez, went inside one minnesota icu and talked with front line workers there. listen in. >> it's real. i don't know how else to say it. it's just our reality. every time i come into work, covid is a major reality for so many families. they're using loved ones. or people might make it out of the icu but they will have issues for the rest of their life, possibly. and so, if you're -- for people who are not affected and can't see it, i always tell them,
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thank god that you're not. >> reporter: yeah. minnesota's governor, now, introducing new measures to curb the spread, limiting social gatherings indoor and outdoor to ten people. restaurants and bars have to close at 10:00 p.m. they have capacity limits. and events, like weddings, funerals, will be rolled back to 25 people. and the big component in all this is going to be testing, as well. the airport, they had just opened up a new saliva testing facility that people can go to, to curb any concerns over travel and you can get the results in 24 to 48 hours. this is part of a program to ramp up testing dramatically here. they do 40,000 to 50,000 tests a day and they opened up a new lab to help process that. that's another big component, is to process all of the tests that
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come through. >> you know the rules. when you come home to new york, you have to have a negative test before you're allowed in. you have to test negative in the first four days of being back home. are there similar rules in minnesota? i see you have the testing sign there at the airport. do you think if they're implementing something like that? >> reporter: there's no rule in the state of minnesota. guidelines about quarantining when you go home or landing in this state. one big component is that they hope that travel will come back, as more people are able to test. and maybe have to do just a little less quarantining. right now, the recommendation is two weeks. they can get it down to their four-day or five-day window. that would be preferred. >> cori coffin, covering hot spots. yesterday in eau claire, wisconsin. today, minnesota. massachusetts, you see right there. 186,000 cases statewide, which is prompting the governor,
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charlie baker, to reopen a field hospital used in the spring. joining me right now, massachusetts congressman, seth molten. thank you for being here. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> you've been involved in the state's coronavirus response from the very beginning. at this point in the game, how concerned are you about the latest spike? and you get a sense that your state will have to open even more field hospitals? >> i'm extremely concerned. no question that this surge is going to be worse than what we saw in the spring. we have learned lessons. the governor doesn't have to build a field hospital from scratch. he has to reopen one. this is going to be tough. it will be really tough for the state. and i'm not sure that people are ready for what this actually means for their lives. a lot of people are planning to get together for thanksgiving. this is the first thanksgiving in my life that i'm hoping not to have it with my parents because i'm so concerned about
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their health. >> i mentioned governor baker in massachusetts, planning to make some changes. he is meeting with governors from new york, new jersey, as well as several other nearby states to consider a policy coordination to slow the spread of the virus. what do you think needs to come out of that meeting to really make a significant difference in the spread there? >> well, the goal is to align state policies. that's exactly what we need to do because every state has different policies and i understand that infection rates may vary from state-to-state. but we have to look, is it safe to travel, or is it not? what are the testing protocols? i was talking to my cousin in new york. the protocol for getting testing down there is different than in massachusetts right now, or at least the procedure. so, we have a lot of work to do to make sure that we can be all on the same page with this.
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what's happened, as you can see across the country, in the lack of federal leadership from the trump administration, states are all over the map. and surges are happening in different places and there's no standard guidance as to what to do in the holidays. >> president trump tweeted about covid relief. saying congress must do a covid relief bill. needs democrats support. make it big and focused. get it done. what's your reaction to that? i check my notes here. and i know that congress did something in may of this year, when it came to covid relief. >> we passed our first bill in march. we massed the most recent bill out of the house in may. and let's not forget, i don't know, a few weeks ago, trump tweeted no covid relief. so, he's all over the map with this, as well. and that is the fundamental problem we have in america. that's why america is so far behind the rest of the world.
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now, the current roadblocks to covid relief and apparently as of this morning, trump wants us to support it, is mitch mcconnell in the senate. he's the one that is holding things up. we passed a robust relief bill in may. we passed more legislation since then. and mitch mcconnell refuses to take it up for debate or a vote. that's the consequence of a republican health senate. that's the consequence of having mitch mcconnell in charge. i don't know why he wants to hurt so many american families and small businesses. but that's exactly what he's doing in this relief. >> congressman, we want to talk briefly about this transition. you ran for president. say you were the president-elect right now. and you're dealing with the stonewalling. what would you do differently than joe biden is? >> i wouldn't do anything differently. i think joe biden is handling it as well as anyone possibly can. this is a tough situation because it's dangerous for national security. as a marine veteran, that's what i'm concerned about.
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i'm concerned about the national security. we have trump refusing to accept the results of a democratic election. the first president in history, in our entire history, to do that. and he fires the secretary of defense willy-nilly. who knows who is next? and all the time, what should be happening is the president should be saying, i'm not happy that i lost. but i'm going to do the right thing for the country, and briefing the biden administration, getting them up to speed on what they need to do. instead, none of that is happening and it's dangerous for our national security. it's dangerous for our troops. it's not the right thing to do for the country. >> you have a lot on your cv. have you spoken about a possible role in the administration? >> i have. and i made it clear they don't want a role. we have a new baby coming in february. i'm quite happy here in salem, massachusetts. a lot of work to do as the representative for here. i ran for president because i
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wanted to put the voice of combat veterans in this year. >> what role was it that they asked you about? >> they haven't asked me about a role. my point is, i specifically said i want to stay in congress because i'm proud to represent the people of massachusetts. >> thank you. congressman seth moulton. good luck with the baby. president trump sends heads rolling across key agencies as he looks to get the last-minute policies in place before leaving the white house. who could be next? and what impact could that have on national security? president trump makes claims of voter fraud. one local news station looked into his accusations that the identities of dead people were used to vote in georgia. wait until you see what they found. d. he uses fresh, clean ingredients to make a masterpiece. taste our delicious new flatbread pizzas today. panera. ♪
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it's been over a week since joe biden was declared winner of the election. he has not been granted access
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to intelligence briefings and other key information. there's a growing call from republicans for president trump to work with biden. nbc news senior national security analyst juan zerate joins us now. you were the deputy adviser for combatting tr intin inting terr. can you explain why so many people are sounding the alarm about this? >> i was between the obama and the bush administration. we were dealing in that transition with a counterterrorism threat. we were coordinating very closely with general jones and the senior team from the obama administration, to talk through the nature of the threat, what we were doing to try to mitigate and deal with the threat and, frankly, with the handover. i was prepositioned. the obama team was prepositioned
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the day of the inauguration and we were coordinated. the threat wasn't real but we didn't know that until that morning. the fact we had war gamed it. we all knew each other, was incredibly important for a smooth and safe transition. and that's the kind of example you never want to see that. but that's the example when you want to see cohesion between one administration to the next. you don't know what crises are looming. you don't know what policy decisions will have to be made. and you want the new team to be prepared as best possible to make those decisions. >> that shines a light on why this is so important. and more are joining this call. oklahoma senator, james lankford and john bolton have mentioned how a delay in this intel has contributed to u.s.'s lack of
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preparedness. >> i think we saw the effect of not proceeding expeditiously in the 2000 election, where for 67 days the bush team was effectively barred from access to government facilities and personnel and information. and that was potentially dangerous as the 9/11 commission pointed out. >> we know joe biden snlt going into this without experience. he was in the white house for eight years serving as vice president. you served on terrorism prevention teams. how vulnerable does this make us to threats? >> it makes us vulnerable in any new team has a large bureaucracy coming in. it's not just the president or the cabinet secretary. you have to get the undersecondaries ready to go. you need a fleet of people to take ownership. to make decisions. the other thing that happens,
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terrorist threats or looming threats from north korea or iran or russia, we know that enemy actors are often provocative. they may be provocative at moments of transition. they may be provocative when a new administration takes over. we saw that with the obama administration, with adversaries taking little bites of the apple, how the administration would respond. so, the incumbent administration i think has a responsibility to get the new administration ready to go, to deal with those provocations and to be prepared for, frankly, the unknown, as well. you have to get everybody ready and up to par. >> my administration could make new grounds right now, the name michelle flournoy is being floated to lead the pentagon. would you support that choice? >> i like and respect michelle. she's well-known. she served as an undersecretary in the pentagon. and she has kept her eyes and ears open to the key policy
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issues at play. so, i think she would be a great choice. i think the key for any cabinet selection is that cabinet secretary has a very good relationship with the president. clear lines of communication. and they're on the same page with respect to policy. one of the fair criticisms of the trump administration is there's been lack of cohesionen of leadership. and a lot of acting leaders in different positions. often discord between the president and the cabinet secretaries. you're not going to see that with michelle flournoy working with president biden. >> she would be the first woman to lead that department if chosen. juan, it was great to talk to you. >> thank you. public health officials are issuing a stern warning against large gatherings this thanksgiving. some are taking extreme safety measures to be with their families. here's nbc's anne thompson. >> reporter: this year, lisa's thanksgiving dinner will have a
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few new trimmings. >> everything will be disposable this year. we have hand sanitizer. i have the disinfectant spray. i have hand wipes, as well. >> reporter: trying to keep covid away, she hosts 15 family members at her new jersey home. any large gathering puts everyone at risk. are you asking your guests to get tested? >> i'm not asking anyone to get tested. but i'm asking everyone to lay low. i will take everyone's temperatures when they come up. i have a digital thermometer. it's family. if i have to kick them out, i kick them out. >> reporter: for the tyrell family in pennsylvania, testing is a must for their 16 guests. >> and the kids don't fuss about taking the tests because they want mom's cooking. >> you know we've taken a test and it came back negative, we're going to have a good time. >> reporter: but medical experts say the extreme measures may not
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be enough. >> if it's not virtual, it's not completely safe. >> reporter: a new survey from ohio state university finds americans are determined to celebrate together, with two in five saying they will likely attend a gathering with more than ten people. so, how to lower the risk? give your guests plenty of space, including separate tables for family groups. and open the windows. >> we have to have adequate ventilation in an interior space, bringing in as much exterior air as possible. >> reporter: hosting the holidays outdoors is another idea. and giving an unexpected lift to bob's tent business near boston. >> the most common question is, can you cover my deck? and if it's cold, can you heat it? we can do both. >> reporter: lisa is giving her guests options, eat outside or indoors with air filters and open windows. is all the extra work worth it? >> definitely. i would go to the ends of the earth to make it happen so we
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could be pogt and safely do this. >> reporter: desperate to be together in a most unusual year. anne thompson, nbc news. more false claims. a local news station looks into president trump's claims that the identities of dead people were used to vote in georgia. wait until you see what they found.
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arrested when pro-trump and anti-trump protesters clashed in d.c. last night. let's listen to a little bit of it. >> hey. all that was for -- >> hours after the president waved to supporters. things started peaceful. but a fight broke without between groups and one person was stabbed. spacex and nasa are teaming up and hoping for good weather tonight. liftoff was scheduled for yesterday, but high winds forced them to reschedule for 7:27 p.m. eastern time today. the mission will send four astronauts to the international space station for a six-month stay. and it's beginning to look a lot like christmas. the rockefeller center christmas tree has been installed right outside our studio here in manhattan. i have been forbidden from singing again the rest of the show. >> thank you. >> the 75-foot-tall norway spruce was found in oneonta.
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they had the area black caded so crowds wouldn't gather. but nice to see. right? >> that's secure keeping you away. >> that's right. >> it's already up. >> sorry about last year. it will be politic on december 2lying on a lot of baseless becames of voter fraud. the claims, however, are false. brendan keith from 11 alive in atlanta tracked down two of those voters who are very much alive and voted legally. >> reporter: mr. james blaylock of coverington, georgia, voted in the election. he passed away 14 years ago. sadly, mr. blaylock is a victim of voter fraud. that claim was amplified on
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national television. >> and no one embodies that story like james blaylock of covington, georgia. he was a mailman until he passed away in 2006. 14 years later, he was still mailing things. james blaylock cast a ballot in last week's election. >> reporter: false. james blaylock did not vote in last week's election. mrs. james blaylock voted in last week's election. >> he didn't vote. >> it was you? >> it was me. >> reporter: agnes blaylock voted using her married name. her registration was signed as mrs. james e. blaylock jr., and that's how she signed in the general election. the president of the united states was accusing you of voter fraud. >> i know it. and i knew it wasn't fraud. >> reporter: is there anything you would like people to know about your husband because i'm sure he's dearly missed? >> best man i ever knew. best one to me.
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i couldn't have had a better one. >> in his case, maybe voting from the grave wasn't really fraud, it was commitment. okay. what about linda kessler of nicholson, georgia. she died in 2003. 17 years later, she was voting in presidential elections. >> that one is also false. she was marked deceased in 2003 and did not vote. linda kekler who has a different address, birthday and zip, and was entitled to vote, did vote. the secretary of state is investigating the other two alleged dead georgia voters. but half of those named by the trump campaign voted legally. who did you vote for? you don't have to share that. >> i voted for the democrats, for biden. >> reporter: i see. >> i guess i voted against the other one, really. >> don't you want to just hug mrs. blaylock right there? >> i do. so sweet. >> so cute.
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we just received a new update on this record-setting hurricane season. overnight, hurricane iota became the 13th named storm. iota is forecast to become a major hurricane before it makes landfall in nicaragua and honduras. hurricane hunters flew into the storm and clocked winds topping 80 miles an hour. by the way, hurricane season still doesn't end until november 30th. president trump has told his advisers that he has plans to announce a 2024 presidential run once joe biden's run is certified. >> are we already there? >> i think so so. >> some are saying he is
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undoubtedly the front-runner for the 2024 nomination. joining me right now is the author of power up newsletter and "washington post" reporter, jacqueline alemany. jacqueline, thank you for being here. apologies straight up that we're already there, but there is this conversation and the president might kick it ahead fairly soon. is this true? would he actually run for 2024 and is he is leading candidate for the nomination? >> i'm not sure he's necessarily the leading candidate, but those conversations are definitely happening in the white house right now. actually, we had sources telling us last week, as soon as election day was over and the president was sensing that defeat was imminent that he was going to be preparing to run for 2024. i had one trump campaign adviser joke to me that he was going to announce on biden's inauguration day to try to steal back some of the spotlight. but look, this is a president that doesn't necessarily care about the republican party, but
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cares about the power that he's able to cling to. and at the end of the day, he did still rangwrangle millions votes, he's popular with the base and has managed to expand the republican party. that's something that's pretty notable when you're looking at the way other potential 2024 candidates are handling this president during this time of defeat when he is refusing to concede. and the statements that they're putting out. but you had people like senator josh hawley who himself is a 2024, you know, rising hopeful, who said last week, told "the washington post" that, look, at the end of the day, the president has a grip on the base of this republican party, and other republicans can't afford to alienate him. if this outgoing president wants to run for re-election in 2024, that seems to be something that he will do and that another candidate won't be able to do without his blessing.
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but again, that's four years away. well, two years away. so still, still an open question, and you know, this president has -- we've reported time and time again that he's never really enjoyed being in the presidency, so it does remain to be seen whether he'd actually want to get back in the ring. >> and he is adding to his war chest. we know he's collecting money for his legal defense fund, which doesn't have to be used for that. but speaking of these other names that could run. you have vice president pence, nikki haley, tom cotton also of arkansas. if the president does decide to run and they all step aside, what does that mean for the republican party, as they're already talking right now about rebuilding and finding their identity. >> yeah, i do think that a lot of those conversations that people were anticipating the republican party to have, this soul searching, you know, yet another autopsy to be conducted, were really overwrought and
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overestimated. i think that trumpism is clearly alive and well. the president and pro-trump forces aren't going anywhere. and at the end of the day, you know, there's also people like don jr. and ivanka trump who are carrying the torch of trumpism forward. whoever is going to run in 2024 or even 2028, are going to have to in some capacity appeal to the president's base and people like don jr., they're the biggest fund-raisers in the party. they're going to have to be relied on either way. >> jacqueline alemany, always up early. we appreciate you. thank you so much. >> up next, nearly two dozen people arrested as protesters clash in d.c. overnight. president trump appearing to fan the flames on social media. a live report as he still refuses to concede. refuses to concede what are you doing? art class. it's abstract expressionism. when you start with a better hot dog from oscar mayer, you can do no wrong. it's all for the love of hot dogs.
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new york city is dealing with an uptick in coronavirus cases, and they're rising especially fast in the borough of staten island. the infection rate there is 4.87%. it's now designated a yellow zone cluster, so that means restrictions. it means restrictions on outdoor and indoor gatherings, houses of worship, how many people can eat at a table in a restaurant and i visited this area yesterday, this hot spot. specifically, a new testing site at the staten island ferry terminal. testing was free, you don't need an appointment, and at times the line was pretty long. i talked to people about why cases were ticking up in staten
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island and what's being done to curb the spread. >> on social media, there's a lot of parties going on. i'm 19, so i know everything that's going on, basically, so everybody that i know, most of everybody that i know is just going outside and partying, going over to houses, meeting up with old friends and stuff without masks or anything, so i guess that's really touching the problem. >> for example, in europe, they removed the masks and everything and went to normal life, which i think wasn't good idea. everyone should be careful and we should wash our hands and wear the mask, but try to live the life. >> you see here, there are people who point to the fact that not everybody is wearing a mask. i saw a lot of people wearing masks, but i was at a testing center, not at a backyard barbecue. >> not at one of the parties that that young man referred to. >> clearly not invited. >> there are plenty of parties taking place in the city and manhattan as well. a lot of people not taking this carefully, at all. first up right now, clashes erupting overnight in the nation's capital as trump
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supporters and counterprotesters spar over election results. one person stabbed after a fight broke out between the opposing groups. and at least 20 people were arrested throughout the night. >> it started with relatively peaceful demonstrations in washington, d.c. thousands rallying for the president, falsely claiming election fraud. trump, who is still refusing to concede is now alleging fraud in the georgia audit. we'll talk to one of the state's representatives in a moment. plus, covid cases reaching dangerous levels, as texas and california top off 1 million cases each. and experts warn of an unprecedented surge after thanksgiving. >> good morning, everybody. it is sunday, november 15th. we're happy you are with us. i'm lindsay reiser. >> and i'm candace gibson. we're live at msnbc world headquarters in new york. we have a team of correspondents and analysts following the very latest for us this hour. >> we begin with nbc's josh letterman in washington, d.c. josh, how is the president responding to what unfolded there on the streets of wa

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